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Buying an Investor Flip

My husband and I have submitted an offer on a house and it was accepted on Friday evening. So we are on day 2 of our 30 day close period. The house we are purchasing is an investor flip in the Montrose area. The seller, an investor group incorporated as a LLC) purchased it on April 19th, put some nice finishes and quality work into the house, and has brought it to market about a week and a half ago. There were multiple bids, and at the end, we won the bid because our credit quality and "closeability" was assessed to be the best of the bunch. We are hoping to finance 80% of the purchase price with a conforming 30 year fixed rate conventional loan. We have the 20% downpayment ready to go. The seller's agent, tells us that he will not provide any documentation regarding the LLC's members or organization structure to lenders. He assures us that the title company, an affiliated division of the company that owns the real estate company that the seller's agent either owns or works for), has all the info it needs to provide a lender's policy. The seller's agent has indicated that the seller will also NOT provide any receipts or invoices related to the rehab work to lenders. And he is strongly pushing us to go with a lender who we have no relationship with, but who has helped him with closing deals in the past. I talked to one lender who said that since the house was owned by the seller for less than 90 days, he will need to see documentation of the LLC's organization. I talked to another lender who said that he doesn't need invoices/receipts, but will need proof of authorized signer on the LLC's behalf. I can't get in touch with our Redfin agent to find out if the seller will agree to provide the proof of authorized signer. My gut feeling is that he will not be willing to provide any such documentation. We like the house very much, however, we don't want to be party to a fraudulent transaction. Can anyone help us see through all this secrecy? Why is the seller unwilling to share the LLC organization documentation to our lender of choice? It seems very unfair that the only lender the seller is willing to let us close our loan with is the lender of their choice. Also, how can we possibly know if there is loan fraud going on if we go with the lender of their choice? by firstjamie from Savannah, Georgia. Jul 13th 2011 Reply


Gianni Cerretani (mortgagegodfather)
#32 ranked lender in Georgia - 238 contributions

RED FLAGS ARE COMING UP EVERYTHWHERE AS I READ THIS: If the seller is not being transparent then the chances that he is hiding something important in regards to the house si most likely true. Honestly if I were in your shoes I would walk if the seller is not willing to divulge any information on the property. This gioes beyond what the bank or lender is requiring as you want to make sure the work that was done by quality professionals and not a hack job fly by night contratcor. I know it is hard to pass on a house you fall in love with but from and outsider looking in it seems you are in for a long road with this property if you decide to go forward. BUYER BEWARE! First rule of real estae!

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MIKE CONVIN (mconvin)
#6 ranked lender in Delaware - 202 contributions

hi: Most lenders follow Fannie and Freddie Mac guidelines unless lenders might have their own overlays...Generally speaking Fannie and Freddie are very cautious of property flipping and in their guidelines states the terms/conditions. But lenders might have their own overlays. I was a Jr underwriter for Freddie and came across with that issue quite a bit and buy backs incurred on behalf of the lender etc after research. As far as the Investors not willing to disclose information sounds like you might want to research..You are welcome to use any lender of your choice. I as a federally chartered bank would like at this quite carefully but also would take this to my private investors not relating to banks and they would basically go by the equity of the property no concerns on chain of title nor property flipping. (Mike 703 505 5300 NMLS # 754875) mconvin@stconvininc.com

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