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I can't find any bank that will refinance both my 1st and 2nd mortgages into 1 loan. Combined LTV is 100%. Please help!

by ginamarie932 from , Michigan. Oct 1st 2013 Reply


Barb Lanis (BarbLanis)
#69 ranked lender in Illinois - 679 contributions

You won't find a lender that's willing to take that kind of risk - no equity. However, if your 1st mortgage qualifies for a HARP refinance, you could potentially refinance just the 1st.

Oct 2nd 2013
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William J Acres (William_Acres)
#74 ranked lender in Arizona - 8,728 contributions

If you go FHA, they will allow 97.75% LTV with a rate and term refinance even though there's a 2nd being combined, however FHA has very expensive mortgage insurance as well as a 1.75% upfront charge (which can be financed). Otherwise, conforming looks at a first and 2nd combining into one first mortgage as a "cash out" transaction and 85% would be your maximum, and you would still have to pay monthly mortgage insurance. If you don't combine your first and 2nd, you can go unlimited LTV on the first, and have the 2nd subordinate. .. I'm a Broker here in Scottsdale AZ and I only lend in Arizona. If you or someone you know is looking for financing options, feel free to contact me or pass along my information. 480-287-5714 WilliamAcres.com

Oct 2nd 2013
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James Mazzola (Mazzola)
#109 ranked lender in New Jersey - 314 contributions

There probable in none

Oct 2nd 2013
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Thanks. Equity loan is 100% for the house. Gov't will refi a 1st mortgage up to 125% but not combine these 2 loans at less. It doesn't seem fair.

Oct 2nd 2013
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What's the highest LTV any bank will go then in this scenario?

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Barb Lanis (BarbLanis)
#69 ranked lender in Illinois - 679 contributions

You would likely only find a lender to go to 85% LTV on a cash out refinance, because that's what it would be considered.

Oct 2nd 2013
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Ken Burrows (mortgagesforamerica)
#19 ranked lender in Nevada - 572 contributions

The highest you will find is 85% LTV out there on an FHA loan.

Oct 2nd 2013
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Joe Metzler (JoeMetzler)
#17 ranked lender in Minnesota - 4,848 contributions

It all comes down to too much risk. Regardless of how safe you feel it is, remember that a lender considers your loan safest at 80% loan-to-value... That is the point where they no longer require mortgage insurance. If it wasn't for mortgage insurance, no one would get a loan over 80%

Oct 2nd 2013
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Jason Vondrak (jvondrak)
#220 ranked lender in California - 1,741 contributions

Generally the highest a lender is willing to go is 85% LTV. It is very unlikely that you will find one that is will to take the risk of 100% LTV.

Oct 2nd 2013
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Dave Metsker (DaveMetsker)
#35 ranked lender in Oregon - 2,318 contributions

As others have stated, the maximum you can obtain in today's market is 85% LTV.

Oct 2nd 2013
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Peter Botros (PeterBotros)
#70 ranked lender in New York - 895 contributions

85%

Oct 2nd 2013
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Thanks everyone for all of your help. I'm looking into the FHA option but one bank said my county only allows a loan up to $297,500. But a different bank is working on it and said he would get back to me today. I'm not holding my breath.

Oct 3rd 2013
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Barb Lanis (BarbLanis)
#69 ranked lender in Illinois - 679 contributions

Gina: Just look it up here yourself: https://entp.hud.gov/idapp/html/hicostlook.cfm If your lender doesn't know what your county loan limit is, and has to "work on it," run the other way. It's not rocket science.

Oct 3rd 2013
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Thanks Barb. I looked it up and the FHA Forward limit says $297,500 and the Fannie/Freddie limit says $417,000. Do you happen to know the difference between these two types? Is the LTV limit the same for both, 97.75%? My loan would fall in this range. Thanks!

Oct 3rd 2013
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Barb Lanis (BarbLanis)
#69 ranked lender in Illinois - 679 contributions

Fannie/Freddie are conventional loans and you can't use this to refinance because of their max CLTV, Only FHA may be possible. You can contact me via my profile and I can better answer your questions.

Oct 3rd 2013
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Thanks all. Looks like I have no other choice other than to continue to pay down the mortgages and hope my home goes back up to the value it was when I bought it.

Oct 3rd 2013
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