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Refinancing to avoid PMI.

We we choose to do a first and second mortgage to avoid PMI my broker told me the 1st loan can have a fixed rate but the 2nd loan has to be a variable rate. Is this true. I wish that we could have both at fixed interest rates. by susan._511_123 from Valencia, California. Oct 15th 2012 Reply


William J Acres (William_Acres)
#74 ranked lender in Arizona - 8,728 contributions

It's not necessarily true, but it is very common.. There are no conforming guidelines for 2nd mortgages, so the banks who issue these types of loans can make up their own rules.. there are a few out there that will do fixed 2nd's, but most only do variable (ARM)... and the rates are almost double what is available for these 2nd fixed rate mortgages, so for that reason, your much better off taking the ARM for the 2nd.. The rate will be much lower.. I'm a Broker here in Scottsdale AZ and I only lend in Arizona. If you or someone you know is looking for financing options, feel free to contact me or pass along my information. 480-287-5714 WilliamAcres.com

Oct 15th 2012
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Ivan Diaz (IvanDiaz)
#131 ranked lender in Texas - 24 contributions

Hello Susan,Depends on the lender...Most offer variable rates on open ended home equity line of credits (2nd mortgages). In addition, most variable rates are about 2% lower than a fixed second mortgage. Keep in mind that I am generalizing but accurate for the most part. I do have a question--- How long have you had your mortgage? I may be able to give you another option.Thank you,Ivan Diaz

Oct 15th 2012
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Barb Lanis (BarbLanis)
#69 ranked lender in Illinois - 679 contributions

Susan: You mention refinancing to avoid PMI. Do you mean to say that your initial loan(s) were a Fixed 1st and a Variable 2nd? That was very common not so long ago. If you are trying to refinance them both into one loan, you cannot currently be underwater. Otherwise, refinancing only the 1st could be your only option under HARP. Also, 2nd mortgage lenders are sometimes willing to modify your Variable rate 2nd into a fixed rate. Depends on your lender. Some are very generous, but keep in mind, the fixed rate on a 2nd won't be even close to the rate on a 1st.

Oct 15th 2012
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Hi Ivan,We have had our loan since Feb 2, 2010. Our loan we have right now is about 5.5% fixed. We did a conventional loan but now have about 10% based on the comps. I'm leaning towards the LPMI instead of the 1st and 2nd loan option because I can't find a broker who doesn't offer anything beyond a variable on the second mortgage. At least if we do go the LPMI route we have the tax advantage on the interest at the higher rate. Thanks Larry for answering one of my posts again. :-)

Oct 16th 2012
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