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Self employed - mortgage declined. Need advice

My wife and I are trying to buy a vacation home.We have been self employed for 14 years and our credit scores are close to 800. Our main home will be paid off in about 5 years and we have no other debt.Everything comes out good in the initial approval in the bank, because they are using our total income. The problem is that we run 3 businesses and put most of our effort into whatever business where our work currently pays off the best.This means that the profit for each business will fluctuate from year to year. One year business A will be most profitable and next year maybe business B will be most profitable and so on...So at this point the bank see that profit from business A and B have increased from 2010 to 2011, but profit from business C has declined. Because of that they are removing ALL income from business C and calculate our average yearly income from business A & B only. This kills the deal for us even though our total profit from all 3 businesses has increased.Are there any bank out there who will look at our actual total income so we can be approved? Any other suggestions to how we can overcome this problem? by mike24_916_290 from Moreno Valley, California. Jun 7th 2012 Reply


Ken Burrows (mortgagesforamerica)
#19 ranked lender in Nevada - 572 contributions

I actually specialize in business calculations and assisting the underwriters in determining the income. The underwriter should be factoring in the net income from all 3 businesses. Get into touch with me I should be able to help you - 888-320-7888 - www,MortgageWholesale.net - Ken

Jun 7th 2012
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Michelle Curtis Loan Originator NMLS 401173 (MichelleCurtisLO)
#77 ranked lender in Florida - 2,245 contributions

You should definitely be working with a broker. If you would like to discuss give us a call. All the best! Michelle

Jun 7th 2012
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Blake Kleckner (BlakeK)
#391 ranked lender in California - 261 contributions

There should be no reason why your income from all 3 businesses can't be used. To get the best possible interest rate & loan cost, stay away from working directly with banks. I know this sounds a bit crazy, but it's true. They take tremendous advantage of borrowers because they know they can get away with it, which, way more often than not, they do. I just did a loan for a client who had her loan with Wells Fargo Bank, so she was going to do it direct. WFB just happens to be a lender of ours as well. Believe it or not, I was able to get her a lower interest rate, saving her $30/mo., and do her loan at no cost, which saved her $3,000. Give me a call 16/7, or email me your phone number so I can call you, and I'll be happy to discuss lender and loan alternatives with you. To learn more about me and our mortgage brokerage, click on my picture. When the next page pops up, click on "Website" and you will be redirected to ours. We work exclusively in CA and get loans done fast, typically in less than 30 days, at low interest rates and costs. Representing 39 quality lenders that offer more than 1,000 loan programs, we definitely have something for everybody.

Jun 8th 2012
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Larry Gray (lgray_312_247)
#597 ranked lender in California - 1,139 contributions

There are some good answers to your question already it seems! I thought I would add that indeed lenders can be just different enough thatone may do the loan and one may not. So the knowledge at least two brokers convey here...experience can help guide them on your particularscenarion and who might do it. Being a direct lender with alot of different corresponding lenders we see different overlays for each lender.However without actual review of your documentation none of us can determine for certain whether they will use the income. We do knowwho are best bet or bets might be though, and our careful preparation & presentation of your loan can be the difference. One writer hit on a good answer in using all three of the net incomes together. It ought not matter...the significant decline to the point of disregarding it.I had a similar situation wherein a broker was brokering the loan to a larger bankand they did their "audit" as they described it on the income and could not see the forest for "their personal view" of the trees!

Jun 8th 2012
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Larry Gray (lgray_312_247)
#597 ranked lender in California - 1,139 contributions

In finishing the statement about the broker to the bank who would not figure in income even with their special audit...I took over the loanand my borrower still got his dream home within the timeline.

Jun 8th 2012
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